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By September 26, 2017May 9th, 2024No Comments

Michael Herbert & Jonathan Saul – Recovery Podcast Episode 11

Jonathan Saul speaks with Michael Herbert, an internationally recognized clinician, speaker, and leader in addiction treatment. Michael has over 25 years of professional experience in the field of recovery and has helped thousands of people from all parts of the world. It was a pleasure having Michael Herbert on our recovery podcast. You can learn more about Michael Herbert at his website

Jonathan Saul is the Executive Director and a founding partner of Brighton Recovery Center. Without Jonathan, this recovery podcast wouldn’t exist. You can learn more about Jonathan Saul here.

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recovery podcast Episode 11

“I don’t think anybody lasts in this field if they’re not good at it… if not, you’ll get eaten alive” – Jonathan

“The message of recovery works. Sometimes not right away, but if you put in the effort, it will eventually work” – Michael

“Everybody in the family is part of the problem, and everybody in the family is part of the solution. We can’t just treat the addict without treating the family also.” – Michael

“The addict is a part of the family, and it’s my job is to help the whole family” – Michael

Music for the podcast was provided by Michael Kelsey

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In this episode we reference a great book titled It Takes a Family by Debora Jay. In this book, Debra Jay provides a step-by-step guide to Structured Family Recovery, which is a way for families and addicts to construct a whole family recovery plan of their own. “Seventy-eight percent never have a single relapse. Less than 15 percent have one relapse but not a second. And those with more than one relapse? A whopping 7 percent.” – Debora Jay

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